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people's temple by the way, it was a bad rap. >> how are we going to explain bob? >> fruit punch, wasn't koolaid. koolaid guy would jump into the wall. much like "special report" which is coming up next. bret is going to jump through the wall. egypt in crisis again. an overnight curfew, a state of of emergency, and turmoil near the top after political violence soaks the streets in blood. this is "special report." good evening, i'm shannon bream, in for bret baier. it is the middle of a very long night in egypt right now. police and the military are trying to restore calm following violence that's left nearly 300 people dead. we have fox team coverage, james rosen at the state department has u.s. reaction to the renewed bloodshed.
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we begin with leland vitter in the middle east. >> reporter: hi, shannon. good morning. there's a tense calm on the streets in cairo, this is the scene in the past couple hours as there's overwhelming military presence on the street, the imposed curfew appears to be taking hold. anyone venturing out risks immediate arrest, these images are stark contrast from the near warfare we saw earlier today. from the air, cairo looked like an urban battlefield, smoke masking horror on the ground as bulldozers backed by hundreds of riot police are firing tear gas, smashed into protest camps set up by the muslim brotherhood following the army coup. the brotherhood claims sit ins and demanding morsi returned to power were peaceful, but documenting them firing ak-47s at security forces, men in
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uniform fired back. by noon, doctors reported hospitals overrun with countless injured and many dead. we are facing a massacre or even a war of genocide, claimed muslim brotherhood leader. a few hours later, he was arrested. by afternoon, wild street battles took over cairo, often forcing battle ridden soldiers to take cover from an unending shower of rocks. their own protection came from a civilian who needed to borrow a light for his molotov cocktail. around the country, chaos became the rule. tens of thousands march in alexandria, destroying everything in their path as overwhelmed police look on. soon they loot and set fire to government buildings, journalists report being targeted in violence. sky news photographer nick dean died of a gunshot to the chest. the vice president resigned in protest to the violence. his position to the puppet government gave legitimacy to
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the coup. he is facing a group of seemingly undeterred by the army overwhelms force between throwing rocks and causing mayhem, muslim brotherhood protesters shout with our blood and soul we defend islam. now the pictures that we are seeing today and obviously slogans chanted by muslim brotherhood supporters there in the streets are eerily similar to what we saw at the start of the syrian civil war, shannon, whether the military is able to bring things back from the brink or they continue to spiral out of control, we will have a good idea when the sun comes up, curfew is lifted in about six hours in cairo. shannon, back to you. >> thank you very much. aides to president obama say he is closely monitoring the crisis in egypt. james rosen reports from the state department on what the administration can and won't do
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about it. >> reporter: u.s. officials said the horrific spectacle of egyptian soldiers fighting, civil war in the most populous nation dealt a blow. he urged all parties to ceasefire and resume dialogue. >> i am convinced that path is in fact still open and it is possible, though it has been made much, much harder, much more complicated by the events today. >> reporter: susan rice briefing president obama during his vacation. his spokesman was questioned on whether the ouster of the muslim brotherhood government in july and latest support or brotherhood supporters don't make it abjectly clear they staged a coup deat that. they would have to halt aid to the military and the obama administration tap danced around it. >> what i am trying to say to
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you, there are certain legal obligations that go with designation of a coup, and it has been determined by senior foreign policy officials in this administration to not make a determination. >> we looked at our legal requirements and determined that we're not required to make a determination. we look at everything through the prism, what is the impact on national regional stability, how can we best play a role. >> reporter: john mccain and lindsey graham who visited there last week. as we predicted and feared, mccain tweeted, chaos in cairo. secretary kerry praising the military takeover didn't help. >> from benghazi to cairo to damascus, to baghdad, we're failing across the board. obama's foreign policy is not working, the mid east is -- if
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we lose egypt, if it becomes a fractured state, i cannot imagine what israel's future looks like. >> reporter: state department officials say secretary kerry spoke by telephone shortly after he resigned as the interim vice president, but added that kerry made no effort to persuade him to stay. shannon? >> james rosen from the state department, james, thank you so much. israel and the palestinians opened their first formal peace talks in the region in nearly five years. the two sides are saying little publicly about the meeting. the israeli government released a brief video showing the chief negotiator shaking hands in an undisclosed location in jerusalem. he says he is sorry he hurt the united states by leaking to wikileaks. he says he understands he must pay a price for his decisions. he faces up to 90 years in prison. soon, talk may not be as cheap as it is now.
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president obama has a plan to boost your cell phone bill to pay for another big initiative. white house correspondent wendell goler on a proposal sure to get a lot of people wired. >> reporter: the nation's number one cell phone user is a plan that may raise the rates on yours. president obama wants to expand high speed internet access in the nation's schools, less than a third of which have it now. deputy press secretary josh earnest told reporters on martha's vineyard the increase in rates won't be much. >> probably on the order of $5 or less a year on cell phone owners, on an individual cell phone owner. >> reporter: for that, officials think they can connect 99% of the schools. lawmakers say not so fast. fred upton said there's going to be push back, absolutely. mr. obama told a north carolina gathering in june he can do it without congress. >> we can and will get started right away.
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yes, we can. >> reporter: but he can't do it without the federal communications commission, which is supposed to be an independent agency. >> the president twice said he's directed this independent regulatory agency to spend this money and raise these taxes and that is simply not within his power to do. >> reporter: aides say he wants to expand an fcc program established to give libraries affordable communications. >> the purpose is to expand access to telecommunications technology all across the country. >> reporter: his spokesman said who wouldn't want to make it virtually universal, especially if it was relatively affordable. at least one fcc commissioner is skeptical of the administration's requirements. >> if a school wants to spend its money connecting all classrooms to the internet, as opposed to one classroom with a one gigabyte connection, they should be able to make that investment. >> jeff eisenhower feels he is seen this before. >> electric car, solar panels,
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solyndra. when the government makes decisions like that from washington, d.c., they're usually not good decisions. >> reporter: the president has nominated a former leader of wireless trade groups and cable to head the fcc, tom wheeler also raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for mr. obama's two campaigns. the full senate is expected to vote on his confirmation once it returns from summer break. shannon? >> wendell, thank you. obama care may be just the beginning. that is up next. looking around the country at what our fox affiliates are covering. wbrc in birmingham has the story of a deadly ups plane crash. and the latest on the park city fire that burned 13 homes, threatens hundreds more. here is a live look at chicago from wfld, the big story there tonight, a two and a half year prison sentence for jesse jackson junior. he admitted using campaign funds on personal expenses. his wife will serve one year in
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middle income families will spend about a quarter million dollars to raise a child born in 2012. the agriculture department's annual cost of raising a child index is up about 2.5% from a year earlier. that total covers costs through age 18. a nonpartisan study says half the people that now buy their own health insurance would qualify for federal tax credits to offset higher obama care rates. that means about half will not and could end up paying higher premiums. it is one of the many frustrations opponents have with the law. chief national correspondent jim angle tonight tells us about another. >> reporter: senate democratic leader harry reid recently made clear what conservatives have long suspected, that he and other democrats, including the
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president and key officials, see obama care as a stepping stone to single payer government controlled health care. >> don't think we didn't have a tremendous number of people who wanted a single payer system. >> why didn't we do it. >> you have to get a majority of the votes. we weren't able to do that. >> i think the idea of moving towards a single payer system could very well make sense. that's the kind of system you have in most industrialized countries around the world. >> i'm all for a single payer system eventually. i think what we have to do, though, is work with what we've got to close the gap. >> reporter: what do people mean when they use the term single payer? >> what they really mean is putting everybody into one big government insurance program and almost always on the left they're talking about medicare. >> medicare does pretty well, considering it is only $42 trillion in debt, by the most optimistic scenario. i'm not sure i want to pile a whole bunch more people onto
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that particular titanic. >> reporter: and single payer systems in other countries hold down costs but by rash onning care. >> there are people waiting longer than 18 weeks for admission to hospitals. in canada, the waiting list to see the physician of your choice can be as many as 800,000 people at one time. >> typical wait for a normal procedure in canada is four months for hip replacement, knee replacement, wait is ten months. >> reporter: some in great pain or with serious illnesses are forced to wait. >> no less than supreme court of canada in the 2005 as part of ruling said that some people in canada died as a result of being on the waiting list. >> reporter: those are some of the reasons advocates of the single payer plan have been unable to round up the votes to put it into law. shannon? >> jim angle, thank you. the eurozone's longest recession ever is over.
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the 17 countries that use the common currency experienced a collective economic growth of three-tenths percentage point. the first rise since 2011. in this country, markets were down. the dow lost 113, s&p 500 dropped 9, nasdaq off 15. the woman at the center of the irs scandal is having her personal e-mail account targeted by congress. correspondent doug mcelway on the latest trouble for lois lerner. >> reporter: they requested she turn over all official irs documents and correspondence in her private msn e-mail accounts. >> here is a lady took the fifth, wouldn't answer congress's question, wouldn't answer the american people. now we learn she's conducting official business on a personal account, in essence potentially hiding it from the taxpayers and the american people. >> reporter: the letter says the fact that it appears low is home is saved in your irs e-mail
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account raises concerns that you have sent irs documents to at least one nonofficial e-mail address and that you may have conducted official business on nonofficial accounts. >> since we don't know who has access to her private e-mail accounts, she may well be violating section 6103 with improper disclosure of taxpayer information which is a crime. >> reporter: internal revenue kwoed states that no officer or employee of the united states shall disclose any return or return information obtained by him in any manner in connection with his service as such an officer. it is not clear whether hers contained tax information. but the existence in her personal e-mail account peaked curiosity. >> if it takes a subpoena, we're going to get the e-mails. >> reporter: a spokesman for her
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said they want her to send all applicable e-mails by august 27th. >> thank you. republican party leaders meeting in boston now. politico reports the focus of the gop summer session is catching up to democrats on voter contact and other perceived strengths. leaders expect the obama focused organizing for action to divert fund-raising resources and focus away from national committee. jack germond has died. he wrote five syndicated columns a week for nearly 25 years. later became a pundit for several tv outlets. his wife says he recently finished his first golf. he was 85.
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a surge in american energy led to a huge increase in the amount of oil transported by rail. the drawbacks of that, accidents and pollution make the controversial keystone pipeline look better to some people, but environmentalists oppose that, too. here is correspondent dan springer. >> reporter: as u.s. oil production soars, there's a new battle over how to get the crude to consumers. a pipeline bottleneck in oklahoma, which could be eased if the keystone pipeline is built, right now has oil companies looking west, and increasingly to trains. >> when you look at the time that it is taking to be able to build additional pipeline infrastructure, get the permits required in this country, rail has its advantages. >> reporter: rail also has its critics, especially after last month's disaster in quebec. a fire that killed dozens. >> an oil train moving oil from north dakota derailed, four tanker cars exploded, 50 people
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are dead because of that. you don't have to be alarmists to wonder whether there are dangers to american communities. >> reporter: 11 expansion plans would bring in crude by train and ship to west coast refineries. if built, the region could move 800,000 barrels a day. 46 more than the flow of the trans-alaska pipeline, the largest in vancouver, seeing four trains a day, create over 100 jobs. >> this is american crude that will be consumed, and we're going to stop sending dollars overseas. >> reporter: oil imp shrinking, which helps stabilize gas prices, but environmentalists worried about global warning plan to block as many port projects as possible. >> the risk of a spill anywhere on the columbia river, on the rail lines bringing trains full of oil in or at the train itself would have enormous impact on communities near the river. >> reporter: despite the tragedy in canada, rail safety record has been good.
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over the last decade, less than a half gallon of crude spilled for every million barrels moved. before they get on track, they need approval from two democratic governors in states that often bleed green. >> thank you. google says if you use g-mail, don't expect your messages to remain private. the declaration in legal papers concerning class action data mining lawsuit. google compares it to an executive whose regular mail is opened by an assistant, but an official with consumer watchdog calls the analogy wrong headed. too much information for detroit cops, and state fair rodeo skit aimed at president obama wrestles up a storm. the grapevine is next. pyramids were actually a mistake?
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investigate. in 1994, a dummy wearing a george w. bush mask was destroyed by a bull in new jersey. buried at the bottom of the philadelphia enchoirerer event, he saw the george bush dummy, sending the mask flag halfway across the sand. no sensitivity training or firings following that. the release of a $100 bill hit a snag that could cost you a lot of benjamins. it includes 3d images that change color. the problem comes down to too much ink, bleeding, and making money look sloppy and smudged. 30 million were sent back to the plants, ones that are damaged must be reprinted at a cost of 13 cents each. and finally, the detroit police department is apologizing to its female officers after accidentally e-mailing out their weight and bra sizes to most of the department. an affiliate says an e-mail went to management and officers notifying them bulletproof vests
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were ready to be picked up, but it contained personal measurements of female officers which are used to get the right fit on vests. the assistant chief calls it unfortunate and embarrassing. in north carolina asking for a state emergency in delay of getting food stamps to recipients, has to do with a new software system. took a lot of convincing to get some of them onto food stamp rolls. peter boyar has the story. >> reporter: the music, one of the oldest art forms in america. its mournful strains tell the story of a god fearing people who long lived in remote places like the vast reaches of ashe county, north carolina. >> this is not an environment it is easy to get by.
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>> reporter: lee mcmillan a local business man. >> it has been tough times here. >> reporter: what kind of folks did this land produce? >> they were a fiercely independent bunch of people, believed strongly in self reliance. >> reporter: loni is a retired engineer. >> they do, or do without. ♪ >> reporter: for countless generations, the people of ashe may do by growing tobacco, raising cattle on small family ranches, producing lumber from the vast forests that still surround them. what do they do when hard times came? >> my daddy got a job logging. >> reporter: he is a retired saw miller. >> got 2.50 a day, and boy, he could have given up but didn't do this. this mountain pride took over. >> reporter: we heard a lot in
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ashe county about this thing called mountain pride, this deeply held belief it is best to do for one's self. but as the federal government sees it, mountain pride is a problem. you see, the government tries to track how many people in an area are eligible for food stamps, and how many signed up for benefits. when a place like ashe county stands out with unexpectedly high number of residents refusing food stamps, a network of social service types from local, state, federal government, nonprofits, too, springs into action. >> this money is out there, if you're not taking it, there's something wrong with you. >> that's correct. >> reporter: jeff sessions, republican senator from alabama, is angry that the government wants to coax people onto the food stamp rolls. >> the idea that a person says i don't want it, i don't need it, and then you feel it is your obligation to talk them into
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taking it, makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. they think they should overcome mountain pride. >> reporter: here is what happened. a local social services worker, partly funded by a usda grant, figured out while folks value self reliance too much to actually accept government money for groceries, they would accept it to buy seeds to plant in their gardens. that proved to be the opening everyone was looking for. and just a year, according to the government, food stamp participation jumped 10% in ashe county and that was just the beginning. folks here eventually became open to other forms of government aid as well. social worker brandy leg's ingenuity earned her a trip to the annual american association of snap directors convention in columbus, ohio where she got the gold hunger champions award from the usda. the citation applauded the important strategy in
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counteracting what they described as mountain pride. >> it makes me very angry, very angry. >> unbelievable. it seems to me it is in reverse. we should be getting award for the people we get off the food stamps and find them a job. >> at its deepest level, the motivation that drives a government to encourage people to take benefits they say they don't need, i think it is a difficult thing to understand. >> reporter: the usda, they decline to speak with us, they did send us this 39 page report, basically summing the usda's mission. it seems to boil down on some level to put as many eligible americans on the food stamp rolls as possible. >> that is exactly the way they see their mission. they explain it in their documents. >> reporter: senator, this is a big government, spends a lot of money, a lot of it goes to prosperous people, tax breaks
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for their vacation homes or some folks in hollywood who buy the fancy electric cars get a lot of help from the government, so what's wrong exactly with needy folks, poor folks, getting their chair of government cheese? >> there's nothing wrong with poor people who need help getting help. ♪ >> always helped those that needed help, it has been through the churches, been through organizations. >> it all falls through the cracks and these people cannot get food and they need it to feed their children. i think the government should help them. >> if you just give them money, if it is just a question of money and benefits, then you can diminish and dull their incentive to work and achieve and to rise above difficult circumstances, so i think there's a real moral question here. >> what would the consequence be if mountain pride were broken? >> it is showing up in the work force. i know one particular saw mill
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that has two mills and can't run are one because it can't get enough help. >> reporter: even these days? >> even these days. restaurants are having problems in town getting waitresses, people are just becoming used to getting something for nothing. >> reporter: one brief message to deliver to president obama, what would you say? >> i would say for those of us who still possess that mountain pride, leave us alone. >> our look at the expanding welfare state continues thursday. we ride with government cops on a food stamp fraud sting. it has been a long day in egypt, we're going to tell you about what's happened and what it means. the fox all stars join us right after the break. the postal service is critical to our economy.
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delivering mail, medicine and packages, yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service and want to layoff over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains $5 billion a year from post office revenue
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today's events are deplorable and run counter to egyptian aspirations for peace, inclusion, and genuine
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democracy. egyptians inside and outside of the government need to take a step back, they need to calm the situation and avoid further loss of life. >> this violence was going to happen as long as the muslim brotherhood in effect had parts of cairo, the largest city, the capital city in egypt, made into no go zones for people that weren't part of the muslim brotherhood. you're not going to have stability in egypt until the government can actually govern. >> instability was the word of the day, hundreds killed there. let's bring in the panel. nina eastin, kirsten powers, and charles krauthammer. welcome to you all. nina, not a good day in egypt, just when you think they're making progress, it turns into what we saw today. >> we can say good-bye at least for now for any reconciliation, national reconciliation, any attempts as political inclusion
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that would lead to redrawing the constitution and all of the other projects that need to be done to get this country moving towards democracy again. you would have liked to have seen leadership from this country that not only prevented this coup but had the army acting in a form of containing these protests by muslim brotherhood, not cracking down on them. the army is determined to decapitate the muslim brotherhood, but they're not going away, and i think the danger now is we could be on the brink of some sort of civil war, civil clashes. what we need is for the army to at least bring security and stability to the country, give a civilian government breathing room to make a secure state for right now. >> and of course that would require stability and calls for peace on all sides, when you have muslim brotherhood supporters morsi supporters saying we will pay with our blood, we will continue to fight for islam, is this turning into secular versus islam? is it not more about the political issues, is it boiling
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down to religious issue? >> it is not really islam, most people in that country are muslims and muslim brotherhood are extremists within that group of people, so i don't think it is islam, i think it is radical muslim brotherhood and more about the muslim brotherhood who are sort of being portrayed as peaceful protesters when they're running around burning 17 churches, coptic churches today, so they're not quite having the idea that they're peaceful protesters doing a sit in, they're actually showing themselves to be fairly violent people. i'm not excusing necessarily the way the military is dealing with them, but we have to be realistic about what they're facing and they are trying to keep peace and they have people who really are not interested in peace frankly when you're saying we're going to pay with our blood. that's not really a vote of confidence i think for peace. >> and there are so many interests implicated, obviously, america has an interest in a stable democratic egypt, but charles, i keep thinking about what happens to israel, where
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they are in all of this, especially if this deteriorates any further. >> well, the question for israel is will egypt keep the peace treaty, and it is infinitely more likely egypt will keep it under the generals than it would under the brotherhood. i think the generals made a strategic decision on the day they deposed morsi that the brotherhood would have to be defeated and eliminated as a factor, either driven underground or really fought. now, there was a possibility that the brotherhood would have made a strategic decision after losing power to go underground and continue for 80 years, sporadically conducting terrorism by generally underground organizing. the brotherhood decided to confront the regime, make this a test of wills. the only way you're going to get stability, i know our secretary of state has to speak about inclusiveness, that's simply hopeless. there's no way in which the
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brotherhood, which is totalitarian party, akin to communists in europe in the post war era, in the cold war, who aren't interested in democracy but only imposing themselves, you can't have inclusiveness and harmony. it is one or the other. a zero sum game. the army understands that, had to suppress the brotherhood, that's what it is doing. i think it has enough popular support as we saw the millions that turned out on the street to depose morsi that they can succeed. i think our policy, they were exactly right, talk about inclusiveness, deplore the violence, but understand that this is a fight between the army representing the forces of secularism and the brotherhood and our interests is for the army to prevail. in the long run for there to be some kind of government interim with the democratic nonislamic elements. you may include the islamists
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way down the road, but certainly not now. >> just to go back on that, charles, you know, and kirsten, i mean, muslim brotherhood may not be a symbol of democracy, we all know that from the way they governed in the past year, they did not include parties in the process and proved themselves incredibly inept, fine. they still are a large, powerful organization and force within that country and you don't by crushing them, what you do is you encourage more violence. they picked up, the army went into those camps, they shot back with ak-47s, burned coptic christian churches, that's what we're seeing here. i don't see how, there's been some good suggestions made about trying to include political types from the muslim brotherhood and to say if you're a believer in violence and part of the muslim brotherhood, you cannot be part of the process. >> it is not just that they're violent, they're
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anti-democratic. they demonstrated this. >> so how do you include them in democracy? >> they want democracy to get into power and then become totalitarian. the idea that we're trying to pretend they're a democratic force, i don't agree that. >> there's one other element, things did change because of the year they spent in power. having always been in opposition, they had the sheen in the aura of people that promised a future, promised -- after a year demonstrating what happens when they rule, you had millions of egyptians that wanted these guys overthrown, so the popularity that was enjoyed was the popularity of the opposition. i think it is greatly diminished now, which is precisely why the generals took a chance on a confrontation. >> that's it on egypt. next up, raising your taxes again, this time to help students get online. "i'm only human" ] humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans.
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i am directing the federal i am directing the federal speed broad band internet within five years. within five years we're going to get it done. >> the president has twice said he has directed this independent regulatory agency to spend this money and raise those taxes. that's simply not within his power to do and wrong and really at b.s. is a bad choice of words. >> the fcc is an independent body. they have to make their own determination about whether or not they want to it upgrade the erate program. >> the end goal sounds like a good one making sure schools have high speed internet access. digital notebooks and different plans. like many ideas in washington. you have got to pay for it somehow. let's talk about our panel now nina kirsten and charles are being back. kirsten, the president is going to take heat over. this because each time he makes a suggestion or talks about something that a lot
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of folks view as outside the realm of his authority, there is going to be push back. and here the fcc is independent, but he is saying he has directed them to do this and what it will mean, we understand as attacks on cell phone bills, makes everybody's bill higher. >> yeah. well, based on reports, the costs will be about $4 a year per person to expand our, you know, our internet access and to all over the country, which seems like a pretty good deal to me. i think that obama probably feels like there is no point in even trying to get congress to do something because there is really almost no idea that he has ever come up with that the republicans will support. the fact. >> just disthem? >> well. >> if can he do it, and it's legal, i would do it it i mean, at this point there is no point in even trying to deal with the republicans. they are not going to work with him. and i think, just sit with his hands folded for the next three years? >> checks and balances. >> unless it's illegal, i
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don't have a problem with it it. >> okay. charles? >> do you have a problem with it? >> well, lock, that means is he a failure as a president. linden johnson had the solid south against him. he worked, he congealed he dealt. he made speeches. he mobilized a country and he passed civil rights. obama says well, you know, these guys are obstructionists or i will do extra legal stuff. unconstitutional stuff. i will direct an independent agency. and his own spokesman has to say well, you know, the agency will make up its own mind. that's not what the word direct means. this is the way he operates. he says the other guys are bad guys. they really don't have the national interest at heart. i do so i will do stuff and ignore the law. under our system, what you do is you propose a law. you get it passed and the congress aprop united states the money. this is not the way that we govern. and this is about the tenth time in his administration in which he has gone around the congress in ways that are clearly unconstitutional. starting with the way that he has made all these unilateral amendments and suspensions in his own
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obama care without ever consulting with the congress. >> and nina, i want to ask you, the g.o.p. has said if this plan moves forward, that they, and they are not included the congress isn't included that they're going to hold hearings. but what -- when you have at stake is internet access for kids at schools dhorks threaten to blow up in their face if they say we are not going to go with this? >> let me put perspective on this. there actually is a program already at the fcc called erate. it already spends $2 billion a year to update and update technology, including putting internet in classrooms for the president to have the soaring rhetoric. is he talking about expanding a program that actually already exists. but let's go down and look at the details of this program. it's rife with all sorts of bureaucratic delays. when an fcc commissioner says you need an erate consultant if you are a school to even get access to this money. such a bureaucratic nightmare.
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there is scandal and abuse. they gave $100 million grant to puerto rico to wire 1500 schools. nine schools were wired at the end of the day. let's go in and look at that $2 billion and see if we can can spend that better. take it out of money for pagers and things like that. let's start there. but i don't think this kind of rises to the level of the end run around congress that we are seeing on some of the other policies. it's a brahm that already exists that congress has approved. the fcc is an independent commission. it has -- it does have a majority of democrats and so it will probably go along. it's requesting comments for requesting comments for a proposed amendment to the program. change the program. so, i don't -- you know, i think it is more of a question of spending money that already exists the right way. >> um-huh and it's projected to be 4 to $6 billion. credited particulars say it's going to be much higher than that if they fully expand it? >> it happens on a week where the highest law enforcement officer in the land gets a wild alaws from
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the aba when he proposing to direct prosecutors in the country to not enforce the drug laws as written. and to actually conceal evidence in trials as a way to not trigger the mandatory sentences that are in the law. this is a pattern. of course it's not the worse, but it's absolutely astonishing how often this administration works outside when what is our constitutional system. >> shannon: final word, kirsten. >> not unconstitutional to do. directing them this is what i would like to you do. he this will decide whether or not to do it. i don't see how it's unconstitutional even if it ends up being more expensive than what is it $5 a year or $6 a year. i think we can afford that to help children have internet access. >> it starts at 5. >> and if goes up. thanks, panel. that's it for the the panel. stay tuned the administration has spent millions to tell the american people about obama care. but not everyone seems to be really clear on the details. that's next.
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>> finally tonight, every day we bring you news on a wide array of subjects, and sometimes even we have trouble keeping all the stories straight. apparently we're not alone. >> where do you stand on the georgia republicans who say they have a higher opinion of paula deen than martin luther king during shark week does this negatively effect your opinion of power ball obama care. >> no. it doesn't affect me. i hope everyone receives their benefits and everything works out for everyone, for citizens, kids and everyone. even. >> even during shark week? >> yes. [ laughter ] >> where do you stand on the georgia republicans who say they have a higher opinion of paula deen than martin luther king during shark week and does it negatively effect your opinion of power ball obama care? >> yes and. no. [ laughter ] >> explain yourself. >> well, yes to. so things that you said and no 00 the to the other things that you said. [ laughter ]
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>> >> shannon: everyone here on the panel will answ that specific question coming up. on "special report" from washington where reremain proud and fearless. "special report" online with their answers to that question starts right now. we hope you will join us. >> shepard: this is the fox report. tonight, a fox urgent. a crucial u.s. partner in the middle east is in turmoil. egypt has erupted. stability in the middle east is in jeopardy. and the essential peace treaty with israel hangs in the balance. egyptian officials say almost 300 people died today. and 1400 people hurt after riot police cracked down on protest camps full of supporters of the ousted president there mohammed morse arey. state television reports some protesters fired at security forces as they closed in on those camps. the demonstrators had been there for weeks. protesting the military's toppling of the president. the u.s. has not called that it a coup so that it can keep sending egypt more than a billion dollars in